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Back with another Reaper newbie question. How exactly do I tell FX where, and when, to apply? I'm using the Voxengo beeper plugin. I created a new track, and added Beeper as an effect. But now, how do I tell it where to apply? I have a very narrow portion of audio I want to sensor. #Reaper #Audio #Osara

@TheQuinbox If you're wanting to just beep out a portion of audio, I don't think that's the plug-in you're looking for. It's intended for content protection, e.g. adding frequent noise to demos, rather than censorship. As such, you set it to beep at a particular interval, rather than just once on demand.

@jscholes @TheQuinbox You could use JS: Tone Generator and use an envelope to turn its bypass parameter on and off as desired.

@jcsteh @jscholes @TheQuinbox I have done exactly this before.
There is a free plugin I tried once, called Censor, which is really nothing more than a 1k tone generator with a bypass button, on by default. It wasn't very stable, and I could get the same thing with the JS tone generator and square envelope points.

@BorrisInABox @jscholes @TheQuinbox I neglected to mention that if you go with JS: Tone Generator, you'll want to set the dry mix to -inf so that it doesn't mix the beeped out audio with the beep.

@jcsteh @jscholes @TheQuinbox Oh yeah, you'll definitely want to do that. By default, it mixes the dry signal in unchanged.

@BorrisInABox @jcsteh @jscholes Oh yeah okay I see what you're talking about. Mostly works, but it doesn't seem that I can set dry mix to -inf. It goes from -108 to +6.

@TheQuinbox @jcsteh @jscholes Well, yeah, it goes to -120. But if you can hear that, your ears are better than most dogs. It won't even register in 16-bit land.

@BorrisInABox @jcsteh @jscholes Oh yeah -120 worked. It's too long though, can I change the length? It goes beyond the length of the item it seems.

@TheQuinbox @jcsteh @jscholes Use square points. Then it's only as long as your envelope bypass is off.

@TheQuinbox @jcsteh @jscholes The way I generally do it is to just arm the bypass envelope for the effect. Don't apply it to items, that does weird stuff.

@BorrisInABox @TheQuinbox @jscholes Oh. That's odd. Sorry for the bad advice on the item splits then, LOL. I don't understand why that would misbehave, but ... 🤷‍♂️

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@jcsteh @TheQuinbox @jscholes I think it has to do with tails. Great for reverbs, kinda useless for this.

@BorrisInABox @TheQuinbox @jscholes Ah, that makes some sense. Sorry, I didn't test the item split idea before I suggested it.

@jcsteh @BorrisInABox @jscholes Yeah, time to go read up on envelopes it seems. I know how to use the basics of them, I've used the pan/volume ones with control alt L, alt shift E, etc., but am not sure how the bypass one works yet.

@TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox @jscholes Shift+l, tab to the search box, type bypass, tab again, down arrow to the bypas tone generator check box, check it, escape, alt+l to get to that envelope. Now treat it like any other envelope: alt+j to move back a point, alt+k to move forward a point, etc, shift+e to insert a point, etc.

@TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox @jscholes To be super clear, this is with Tone Generator as a track effect, not a take effect now.

@jcsteh @BorrisInABox @jscholes I arm it on the track and it just continuously plays a tone, even if the project isn't playing, and shift L doesn't show anything to bypass it. I'm probably going to look back on this in like 2 years and cringe, holy shit I'm a newb.

@TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox @jscholes If you've isnerted the JS: Tone Generator effect on the track, shift+l then tab should take you to an edit box where you can type bypass. If you tab again and press down arrow, that should get you to a bypass tone generator check box.

@jcsteh @BorrisInABox @jscholes I see what you're talking about actually now, but it seems to have no effect. Both with the check box checked and unchecked, it masks the whole track with a beep.

@TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox @jscholes That check box just enables/arms the envelope. To actually bypass, you need to create square envelope points which turn bypass on and off.

@jcsteh @TheQuinbox @jscholes Yes. So you'll want to edit that first preexisting envelope point to bypass it, then unbypass with square points for the sections you want beeped out.

@TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox @jscholes Effectively, this will be as if you bypassed the effect on the track, which you can try out by pressing b while the track is selected. (Technically, b bypasses all effects, but I assume you only have one effect here. You can bypass a single effect by pressing control+b while focused on the effect in the FX chain.)

@TheQuinbox This was a great thread. I'm trying to make a habit of writing things down that I'll easily forget in a week, and the use of envelope points is definitely one of those. To that end... jamesscholes.com/2023/11/02/tu @jcsteh @BorrisInABox

jamesscholes.comTutorial: Audio Censorship in Reaper – James Scholes

@jscholes Nice! I'm impressed at your writing speed.
Additional tip: Because you did step 4 (twiddling the bypass parameter), you can replace steps 6 and 7 with pressing control+alt+l, which will activate and arm the envelope for the last touched FX parameter (bypass due to step 4).
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@jscholes Also, you can use the action "Item edit: Move items/envelope points up one track/a bit" (and the down action as well) instead of alt+shift+e and typing bypass/normal. Unfortunately, those actions are only bound to the numpad by default, which is annoying if you don't have a numpad.
@TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox

@jcsteh @jscholes @TheQuinbox I don't have a numpad, so that's annoying. I remapped it for myself.

@jcsteh Thank you, these are great tips. I wasn't aware of Shift+L until today, and it seems incredibly useful. So I'll try and find a way to mention Control+Alt+L while keeping Shift+L in too. @TheQuinbox @BorrisInABox

@jscholes Shift+l has been there for years, but it only became properly keyboard accessible in the last year or two.
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@TheQuinbox @jcsteh @jscholes The envelope itself works the same as any other envelope with two parameters, I.E. if you don't use square points, you'll get things coming in and out at unexpected times, since there is just an on and and off, but a sliding scale from 0 to 1 that could hit 0.49 or 0.51 triggering the closest thing.
In this case, shift+l on the track, find the bypass envelope for the JS tone generator, arm it, then edit.