utopiArte<p><strong>Robert Kingett wrote:</strong></p><blockquote>I’d rather want people to make changes to the Fediverse software</blockquote><br>To begin with, participation in the code of FOSS is a main goal, to the point that the community taking over the entire project like in the case of friendica or diaspora is the ideal case. I guess <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.xyz/users/rms" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rms</span></a></span> would support such a statement. That includes softforks of all kinds,in the means of not destroying the base layer of communication itself, that's what FOSS is about.<p>In general it looks to me that we are not used to the idea of federation and what that means in the first place. We are accustomed to single sites with a single offer and try to adapt them to our needs. The fedi implies that we need to look out for the platforms and instances that have the capabilities we're looking for. People don't get that point because they are trained to be in wallet gardens, stuck with the domain and the platform. And they are used to get pampered and get all their wishes to log them in forever.</p><p>You probably could say that the fedi is kinda free open democracy and the walled gardens are capitalist dictatorships.<br>There are lot's of supporters for capitalist dictatorships, especially when they grew up in them.<br>None of us is interested in people going back to the asocial dictatorial walled gardens of surveillance. Yet the same way, and with way more impetus, we are against to become those places or willing to change the base line that puts us on a path to become like them, because people with their behavior and expectations imprinted on those sites expect us to become like them, or to adopt behavior and tools that recreate what created the illness of those sites in the first place.</p><p><strong>Robert Kingett wrote:</strong></p><blockquote>What are you going to do when that happens? Tell them to use a different project?</blockquote><br>When ever there is a platform that works well and offers what they are looking for, of course that's what we do and what we all should do!<br>That's what the fedi is about!<br>That's what diversity is about!<p>To be more precise, that's the problem we have with people, be it the <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/users/Gargron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Gargron</span></a></span> with his policy to destabilize the federated concept by creating a mega instance like mastodon.social, or others that do things that point in a direction that has been proven to be in detriment to our main goal. That's the moment we become fundamentalists, we become constitutionals. We want to see our prominent people, our "influencers" to tell people not only to use other instances, we want them to promote the fedi in the first place. To be in the first place ambassadors for the fedi itself.</p><p>You see, to onboard newcomers in the first place onto in this case mastodon.social might be a good strategy to make the step into the fedi as easy as possible, but than we'd like to see an attitude like:<br>"You want this feature? Try out <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=peertube!" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>peertube!"</span></a><br>"You want that feature? Try out <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=misskey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>misskey</span></a>, in our road map this goal is far ahead on the schedule"<br>"You need that feature, try out <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=pixelfed!" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pixelfed!"</span></a><br>"You want a <em>eierlegende Wollmilchsau</em>? Try out <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=friendica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>friendica</span></a>!<br>My goal is a microblogging platform with specific capabilities."<br>"You prefer a community that mainly speaks spanisch, try out <span class="h-card"><a href="https://masto.es/users/rober" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rober</span></a></span>'s masto.es!"<br>"You are looking for a scientist community, try out sciencecorner.social!" ..</p><p>Imagine Suckerberg telling people to check out instagram instead of buying it?<br>Wouldn't that be an article worth writing about and steering up the media promoted by <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/users/jeffjarvis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jeffjarvis</span></a></span>?<br>We are in a different realm out here, in a different league. And if we want to prevent the chance of <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>enshittification</span></a> of <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=theFedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>theFedi</span></a>, like <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mamot.fr/users/pluralistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pluralistic</span></a></span> described it, we need to prevent the creation of log in effects in the first place.</p><p>Your initial toot was about <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> and now we are talking about the <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=fediVerse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediVerse</span></a>. That is happening again and again in conversations, just happened recently with <span class="h-card"><a href="https://digitalcourage.social/users/reticuleena" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>reticuleena</span></a></span> too, because people, as well as VC, and our minds think in terms and goals that are not our main goal as a community, as a <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=fediSociety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fediSociety</span></a>. And we need to work on this inside our selves in the first place, because the FOSS community and FOSS development has it's own rules and it's own inertia.</p><p>Our ego's, the society that created us, the press with it's attention economy, and VC in particular, they all work on individual success. Our goal, the goal of a better healthier society, a better improved environment for us all, for everyone, takes a different path and needs different tools, behaviors and strategy.</p><p>This is about an evaluation of order of interest for all of us, inside each and every one of us. And a specific struggle against our tribal program, our brand recognition program and our very own ego. People like Eugen, or <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/users/dansup" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dansup</span></a></span> are actually in the crossfire of that, and they are taking the worst part, because they get the heat by all the other's. Heat from the righteous ones, the one's how know everything better but ain't able to even fork a code from github and work on something themselves. They are exposed to VC that bribes you with illusions to buy your project, your ideals, your life, your lifetime, your intentions. Even victims of the fans that cheer what ever they say or do, the whole thing squared.</p><p>WE want our free, decentralized, privacy aware internet back. And if people are not able nor want to do the extra mile because they actually just want their twitter or facebook back, we definitely prefer to remain a niche, growing slowly but steady, preserving the main factors that are the fundamental basics of <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a>, of democracy and a social, free and open society.</p><p>We are in a different environment here <span class="h-card"><a href="https://caneandable.social/users/WeirdWriter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>WeirdWriter</span></a></span>, the order of the importance is FOSS and federation, than activitypub, than mastodon (in the case of your request).</p><p>That means our first request to the coders should be to guaranty interoperability and an easy way to create and port profiles to others platforms in the very first place. <a href="https://tupambae.org/search?tag=Diaspora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Diaspora</span></a> never even achieved that promise inside their very own network.<br>We expect anyone out here to put the fedi first.<br>To promote other platforms instead of becoming the number one.<br>To foster other instances, the network itself, instead of only foster the own belly.</p><p>And we have to work that out, we are working that out.<br>We have to invent that.<br>We have to invent and create that mindset in ourselves and in the community.<br>And we are going to face our own enemies the whole time on our way to the lonely mountain to get rid of the one ring to rule them all, our ego.</p><p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://loma.ml/profile/feb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>feb</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jupiter_rowland</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.wedistribute.org/users/deadsuperhero" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>deadsuperhero</span></a></span></p>